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Everyone says breakfast is the most important meal of the day, but breakfast really slows me down. As iiiiiiiiiiin, sloooooooowws me doooooown*yawn*. Its afternoon and I still haven't recovered. I had stuff I'd wanted to post today but my brain is too lazy to try to remember, or think.......

Last night my friend said "you made out with someone and you say you're celibate. That doesn't make sense. You might have as well gone all the way, sin is sin". Is this true? If I kissed someone, is it the same thing as going all the way and having sex with the person? Am I just as guilty in the eyes of God? What do you think? Answers please...
Is celibacy abstinence from sex alone, or abstinence from everything sexual including kissing, touching, fondling etc ?

Heterosexuals and homosexuals I understand, but these "people" I don't. Do they date men or women or both? Are they men or women or both?




How come no one judges lesbians? Aren't they gay too?


I have a very busy day ahead so this might be it for now.
Stay blessed. 

My friend and I would really appreciate your thoughts/opinions on my first question. 


  1. seriously inam confused about this transgender people just like you are.

  2. I was a virgin till I was 23. I had a boy friend o. We made out like crazy but I never let it get to d actual act. I even dated one guy that always gave me head which I enjoyed a lot. so in answering ur question... the old me will say as long as there's no penetration, there's no sin but the new me will tell u that it is one and d same. This is because sin is committed in the mind b4 the actual act so as long as ur making out and enjoying it you could as well go all the way. That's my opinion

  3. Of course it's not the same! Kissing is not same as sex! Hubby and I 'waited' till we got married to do the deed but we did kiss once in a while ( long distance) so will that mean we were just deceiving our selves since we kissed?! I think not. The difference is clear

  4. Abstinence is staying away from everything sexual including kissing, touching, half measures!

    As for lesbos not being judged, I can only speak as a dude. ALL men tolerate them to an extent bcos women are not equipped to penetrate but are equipped to be penetrated.

  5. Lol, some peeps be trying real hard to convince themselves....kissing, fondling et all is the same thing as the real deed o...If it is an activity that gives your body sexual pleasure, it ain't abstinence yo!

  6. Think of it this way, if you found out your hubby kissed and fondled another woman would you get mad at him or will you shrug it off and say after all they didn't have sex.

    1. She'll be unhappy, but definitely not as unhappy as if she heard he actually went all the way. They're two completely different incidents.

    2. So God too is unhappy regardless of whether it was just making out or sex.
      Making out is foreplay and foreplay leads to sex, I think if one chooses to abstain then making out shouldn't be an option, though it is quite hard to keep your hands off someone you love.

    3. Yeah GOD is unhappy at sin generally, but while foreplay is sinful sexual activity between two unmarried couples, foreplay is not the same as sex, which is a more sinful act. We're on the same page when we say Thelma isn't celibate (right, Thelma?), but I'm not with you when you grade foreplay and sex equally. It's like saying a virgin who makes out but has no sex isn't a virgin anymore. Sounds weird to me, don't know about you.

    4. I get your point now Memphis, both are sinful acts but one is more sinful than other.

  7. Celibacy is abstinence from ALL SEXUAL ACTIVITY. It's very different if you stay away from sex alone.

    "You made with someone (by kissing him) and you say you're celibate. That doesn't make sense" - I quite agree with her
    "You might have as well gone all the way, sin is sin" - I disagree with her. If sin is sin, as most people say, then why don't we show the same livid attitude to terrorists and six-year-olds that are quite stubborn? Or can we compare a rape/murder case to a harmless lie? Sin isn't sin, no matter what anyone says. And though Thelma didn't display celibacy by kissing/hugging/fondling, she definitely doesn't need to go all the way. That's ABSTINENCE FROM SEX.

    1. This is me asking, where is the 'Like' button.....?

    2. Nna, sin is sin. The same hell fire killing will take you to, is the same one a lie will take you to. It is somewhere in the bible that all sin are equal unto GOD. If we aren't livid or annoyed about these things, we are just humans and acting ihe anyi jiri buru humans. To GOD, all na sin. I am not preaching, just countering your argument.

    3. Nne, sin isn't sin biko. Hapu ihe. First, I haven't come across where it's written as you claim,"all sins are equal unto GOD". You made that statement because you don't want to be termed "Judgmental...Pharisee...holier than thou..", but would you think about it when you want to use the Rod on your kids? Now let me share with you some of the things I have read from the Blessed Book.

      Numbers 15: 1-31, differentiates between "Intentional" and "Unintentional" sins.
      Mathew 12:31 talks of an UNFORGIVABLE sin. No matter what you do to repent, you're a walking corpse.
      Luke 20:47, talks about GREATER CONDEMNATION awaiting Pharisees.
      I Corithians 6:18, sexual sin is committed in the body, others outside the body.
      I John 5:16-17, talks about sins THAT LEAD TO DEATH and those THAT DO NOT LEAD TO DEATH.

      Nne, I'm tired, the evidence that Sin isn't Sin is everywhere in the Bible. Be Blessed.

  8. Memphis, on point as usual. @ the lesbians, I think it's because it's much less repulsive.

  9. Memphis thank you very much, you just clarified this thing for me. I've been having this battle within myself since I decided to abstain since September. My reason was spiritual, it was more mental. I did it to get my libido under control because it was raging. Now see where my problem is, my abstinence is only from sex, I do everything else and it gets me into some crazy naked arguments, for girls there's a point of no return and sadly that's the point where I have to stop and control myself. I've heard all sorts, didn't know women could beg for sex too. Lol
    Now let's go spiritual a bit, there is a blood covenant that occurs with everyone you've had sex with, when you hear the phrase "sex complicates things" it's actually more spiritual than physical. Unfortunately I don't have time to elaborate, but what sex does to your spirit, kissing and touching doesn't even get close

    1. I completely agree with your last statement.

  10. My OPINION: sex is a different ball game; it's in a class of its own. Penetration is not same as kisses etc. However, in God's eyes? I can't answer that; no one knows God's mind. But, taking Bible as a standard, conceiving the thought alone is sinful, which invariably means that kissing, touching, sex are all sins.
    My ADVICE: if your abstinence is purely on FAITH ground, please stop making out.
    Plus: aside from the fact that it is un-Christian, it could easily lead to the real deal.


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